Posted By VicR on 06/05/2008 4:16 PM
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1. Isn't it better to let the dog learn he can't have the bird by letting it fly away rather than holding him back?
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2. I think eventually you need to re-inforce the hold on a point, whether it be a check cord or the whoa command.
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3. Do you recommend the use of a check cord on the first upland outing to steady a puppy if he happens to point?
4. No negatives whatsoever to using a check cord? At the very least it slows the dog down a little in the upland field.
5. Any published references to where you got the check cord training method for upland?
6. I mean, where did this originate?
IMO:
1. Yes, sort of.
2. Not necessarily.
3. No - unless the birds expected to be encountered are poor fliers and in that case only to prevent the pup from capturing the critters.
4. Especially when one end is attached to the trainer as it should be most of the time .
5. I learned the method from Bill West's video, and in person from his students Bill Gibbons in Arizona and Maurice Lindley in South Carolina. Earlier this year I wrote a long rambling outline description of the method and posted it at the other PL forum - see the second post in this thread:
http://www.pointinglabforum.com/build/objects/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1614
6. I believe the use of a rope to control the actions of a pointing dog while training is "older than dirt." I'm pretty sure I read about it (and only "correcting" the dog AFTER it chooses to take the bird out) in a book on training the "English Spaniel [setter] or Pointer" published in England in the very early 1800s.
Jere
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