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I purchased a so-called pointing lab pup from a kennel in Kansas city, the pup is a son to saulk river featherstorm Jake and female named Good golly miss molly II. The dog is almost a year old he knows sit,heal,some basic whistle commands and learnes quickly, but in the field he shows no signs of pointing and shows no interest or drive to hunt!! I am very disappointed in this male. I have had labs my whole life and have never seen one that shows no interest like this one. Has anyone owned a dog out of the breeding and had problems. also what would be a suggestion on training with this dog.
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| 11/13/2006 9:23 AM |
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Posted By ranger on 11/13/2006 8:53 AM
I purchased a so-called pointing lab pup from a kennel in Kansas city, the pup is a son to saulk river featherstorm Jake and female named Good golly miss molly II. The dog is almost a year old he knows sit,heal,some basic whistle commands and learnes quickly, but in the field he shows no signs of pointing and shows no interest or drive to hunt!! I am very disappointed in this male. I have had labs my whole life and have never seen one that shows no interest like this one. Has anyone owned a dog out of the breeding and had problems. also what would be a suggestion on training with this dog.
It's very difficult to believe this pup actually exists. I don't think I've ever seen a dog that was even part Labrador that showed "no interest or drive to hunt".
On the odd chance that you're telling the truth, you'd probably have better luck bringing this up with the breeder of the litter, & asking for a refund rather than whining on here.
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| 11/14/2006 10:25 AM |
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Might be the dog -- Might be the trainer or training program.
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| 11/14/2006 12:20 PM |
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I find this hard to believe too. In the General section you are looking for a pointing pup. 
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| 11/14/2006 2:24 PM |
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2 siblings of your pup passed their CPR's in Colorado this year....that tends to tell me the litter was a good one...unfortunetly not every pup in every litter is going to accomplish what its siblings do... I've had the pleasure several times to watch Sauk River Featherstorm (Jake) in the bird field...the dog is absolutely amazing...as are many of his offspring that I have also had the pleasure to shoot birds over...Molly is a proven producer...and what I've been told a great pointer...thou I've never seen her in the bird field...
As dannoj said above..maybe it would be benificial to contact the person who sold you the pup...
good luck with your pup...it still may turn around to be everything you want in a pointing lab....
Black Angus Featherstorm, "Angus"
AKC Reg Number: SR22883508
DOB: 1/5/2005 Sex: M
Sire: Sauk River's Featherstorm
Dam: HPK's Good Golly Miss Molly II
Owner: Christopher Pfanstiel
Handler: Christopher Pfanstiel
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DOB: 1/5/2005 Sex: F
Sire: Sauk River's Featherstorm
Dam: HPK's Good Golly Miss Molly II
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| 11/14/2006 9:12 PM |
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"I am very disappointed in this male."
If the two pups listed above were from his litter... I'm guessing he's very disappointed in you as well! 
sorry, couldn't resist!
I've never been a believer in the "make sure to pick the right pup from the litter" approach. Just my opinion, but I think if you pick the right litter, the pups are pretty much the same. I can't believe they'd range from spectacular, to a total dud who has no interest in hunting. (unless something very wrong happened along the way)
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| 11/17/2006 1:03 PM |
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| I am curious as to how you ended up getting the pup from Kansas City? Did someone else have the pup first and then you bought it from them. I have a pup that came from Sauk River as well and although it did not come from the Featherstorm/Molly litter, it is a descendant of Featherstorm. I was frustrated at times but it turns out that I was doing something wrong and the pup wasn't. If the pup is showing a lack of hunting, which I find hard to believe in this breeding, I would say it was something in the early training that took the pup's boldness and enthusiasm towards finding birds away. |
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| 11/17/2006 1:07 PM |
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| One quick additional note: As far as pointing, I put some quail out and let the dog find them, as he got close to the birds, I would hold him back a little with the check cord. Eventually he began to point the birds rather than rush in and try and catch them. Seems to have worked for my pup, but I am by no means full-time trainer of pointing labs, it is just something that worked for me. |
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| 11/18/2006 5:23 AM |
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I have a hard time believeing any dog from david mork's line would be anything but a bird finding fool. |
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| 11/28/2006 9:01 PM |
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| What have you done previous to the opener. A dog going into it's first bird season should have already seen at least and at a very minimium 20 birds. I would say the dog needs work, and you the trainer need to decide if you can do that or if you need to send him to someone. If you would bring him down here we can take a look at him and put him on some birds, anything to help you and the dog out. |
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| 11/30/2006 5:28 AM |
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| I will tell you one thing Deke is out of Jake and he is a Duck Hunting Pointing fool. On top of that Deke has been breed a few times and all the pups that went to hunting families are extremely happy with the Hunting abilities and trainability of these dogs. One of the females we breed to was not a pointing lab, yet the three males from that litter went to hunting people and they are pointing fools at 8 month's old. Did you put this dog on birds at a young age and have you continued to do so until the dog shows he is a birdy fool. Some dogs need a little more exposure than others. I believe Jake passes on his genetics to his offspring. At least that is what I have seen in every Sauk River dog produced from Jake. I can only comment on what I have seen. |
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| 12/04/2006 2:01 PM |
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And I can vouch for Deke .. when I saw Deke run the first time in his CPR test I said, wow, now there is a dog that hunts and points as well as my own!!!(trust me when I say "that is a tall order" to match :-)
All kidding aside, Deke is a great dog, birdie, and solid on point, despite the fact that his handler and trainer is John !!! LOL (sorry John I couldn't resist) |
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