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Author Messages Oldest First Newest First Huntin_Fool01 Oldham, South Dakota Certified Online Status: Posts:82 04/02/2008 8:52 PM Alert  HI EVERYONE I GOT A QUESTION. I HAVE A YOUNG DOG THAT HAS A A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF PATIENTS. IVE TOOK HIM DUCK HUNTING A FEW TIMES LAST FALL AND HE WOULD ALWAYS WANT TO BUST OUT AS SOON AS THE DUCKS STARTED COMING IN. I USUALLY HAD TO WHISPER (STAY..STAY..STAY) WHILE WE WERE WAITING FOR THE BIRDS THE DROP IN ON US OTHERWISE HE WOULD GET TO JUMPY AND TRY TO GO BEFORE I TOLD HIM HE COULD. IF I COMTINUE TO SAY STAY WHILE WE ARE SHOOTING HE WILL STAY THE WHOLE TIME UNTIL I FINALLY SAY HIS NAME(WHICH IS HIS SIGNAL TO GO). ID LIKE TO GET HIM TO STAY AFTER I HAVE SAID IT ONCE AND NOT HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WILL GET BETTER AS HE GROWS UP OR WHAT. I APPRECIATE THE ADVICE. THANKS EVERYONE!! cartbird Westland, MI Advanced Online Status: Posts:357 04/03/2008 5:10 AM Alert  How young? Work hard, Hunt harder APR HR Cart's Island Gauge JH APR SHR Cart's Island Muddy Banks Cart's Island Makin My Point Echo (newbee) Cart's Island Tigs Perfect Storm of HRK (Breeze) www.trulifetaxidermyartistry.com Doc_E N.E. WA state Master Online Status: Posts:941 04/03/2008 6:56 AM Alert  What training program are you following? . Doc E and Cujo Casey boy. Rob G Cedaredge, CO Advanced Online Status: Posts:488 04/03/2008 9:15 AM Alert  I don't teach "stay". I teach the dog that "sit" means to sit (and sit still) until otherwise commanded or released. I reinforce with the healing stick. I find that "stay" diminishes the importance of the "sit" command. How long should the dog sit? Should the dog only remain sitting when it is followed by the "stay" command? If no "stay" is given, when should the dog get up? Teaching that "sit" means to sit until I tell you otherwise, automatically teaches stay and removes some of the confusion. That's just what I have done and it seems to work for me...good luck! Rob Home of: CPR Bearpoint's Top Gun "Maverick" PRG's Hunter's Lullaby "Cricket" Sam's Jumpin Jack Flash "Jack" Amber's Gold Star "Star" (started & for sale) "Gunner" Liv2Hnt Overland Park, KS Advanced Online Status: Posts:157 04/21/2008 2:10 PM Alert  I do the same thing. Sit means sit.  No matter where you are or what you are doing. Its tough, but especially in a hunting situation you need to nip this in the bud for safetys sake. My pup went throuh his first duck hunting season this last fall and just turned two. I did everything I could to work on breaking and not that he was 100% perfect, but it did help out. Several things I did to work on this are: 1. If you have to shoot while hunting a young dog, tie him to a blind or stake so he cant break on birds. 2. If he does break on birds while duck hunting, make him sit and watch you go pick them up. If you have a dog with some drive, they wont like this very much. 3. Work him off of raised platform while doing simple marks. It seems to cement in the, I cant move from this spot or I dont get to retrieve. Steadiness takes some time and needs constant reinforcement to get to the point where you dont have to remind the dog stay stay stay, while the birds are coming in and you should be getting ready to shoot shoot shoot or just shoot shoot if you carry a double. Good luck. Proud Owner of: APR McNally's Right Stuff Ridley keskam Pierce, Colorado Master Online Status: Posts:887 04/21/2008 3:08 PM Alert  I would work on Obediance! and like Rob says I would say sit. If the dog is collar conditioned It would be an eay fix! when we are hunting, we let them get by with little things, and it comes back to get us or at least me anyway just teach him what you want and be patient!! Kevin HR Rocky Mountain Rosco JH APR HR Lady Satin of Black Forest JH SHR Satin's Jumpin Jedi JH SHR Chelsea Snow Angel JH CPR HR KB's Snakey Jake of Poudre River JH SHR KB's It's Showtime of Bearpoint (Star) SHR KB's Loaded To Go Allie KB's Black Diamond Tessa Big R Advanced Online Status: Posts:109 04/22/2008 10:44 AM Alert  Sit........ Once and only once. If he moves.....  He gets the eye.  I'm not done till I'm done. I say in a shape tone... Mark!  Let him get a bead on the downed birds, when I see he has marked them, in a calm voice, I say his name. I stand up when he's in the water and position myself for his return if there are any blinds that he may not have picked up on. Stay calm with your dog at that young of an age. I try not to change my voice inflections too much either. When Mallard was young, there were many times I didn't shoot at all. I worked him and let the boys do the shooting. Your not going through anything that hasn't happened to each and every one of us. Hang in there. Big R & 1.5X GMPR Tiger Mountains "MALLARD" Chaser SH woodduckman Certified Online Status: Posts:3 04/27/2008 8:44 AM Alert  OB, OB, OB till it gets it. Huntin_Fool01 Oldham, South Dakota Certified Online Status: Posts:82 04/27/2008 12:24 PM Alert  ya he was only trained to sit and not to stay. so ive been focusing on that and hes reacting much better.thanks everyone!! Doc_E N.E. WA state Master Online Status: Posts:941 04/27/2008 3:59 PM Alert  Get on a proven training program. You cannot learn to train a dog by asking questions on the net. . Doc E and Cujo Casey boy.
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