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Colorado Judges/Handlers Seminar - Thursday, August 21, 2008
A Judges/Handlers Seminar will be conducted at Haystack Ranch on Friday, 8/29 at 7:00 PM.
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Fall Election for 3 Directors
There are three directors whose terms expire at the end of 2008. Those are Brice Romero, Stu Wange, and Joe Bubulka. It is unclear if any or all of them will run for re-election. We will have an election commencing in October. At this time the APLA is solicting for those members who wish to run for a 2 year term.
The requirements are to be a current member in good standing. You need to submit your nomination letter no later than September 20th. This letter needs to or should contain the following items.
*The office you are running for. Here it is director.
*Why you feel you would make a good director.
*Any goals or objectives for the APLA you would have if you were elected.
*Your length of membership with the APLA.
*Amount of and type of APLA officer or event experience as well as other dog organizations.
*Dog experience relative to titles attained, training, judging, hunting, etc.
*Your letter must contain your name, address, phone number, and email address.
*And lastly your letter must contain 10 current members who support your nomination and whose permission you have attained. List their addresses, phone numbers, and email addresses. (Double check this information for completeness and accuracy. Nine current members won't pass, it takes 10 members.)
The nomination letters need to be received not later than September 20th by Larry Kimble, 1112 Birdie Drive, Independence, KS 67301, 620-331-4066. No express over overnight mail requiring receipt signature. Also, email your letter to lkimble@cableone.net by the same date.
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Revised Certified Pointing Retriever Rules - Thursday, March 13, 2008
Effective with the spring hunt tests the Certified Pointing Retriever rules have been revised. The revisions are in red under the Rules tab and Certified Pointing Retriever. The changes are in two areas. The first area is "Scoring" where an individual category score of 1 1/2 or lower will result in failure. Also, the total score is changed from 18 to 21 points. The second area is the change and replacement of the last sentence under "Point".
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Holly Cart - new APLA secretary - Thursday, August 14, 2008
Due to Shawn Hoover's resignation as secretary, Holly Cart has accepted appointment to fulfill Shawn's term through 2009. This is per our by-laws. Holly was the runner up in the recent election to Shawn. Shawn will continue to be active in the APLA, but due to personal reasons he was not able to spend the necessary time that the secretary position requires
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August 2008 Newsletter available - Wednesday, August 13, 2008
The August 2008 is now available under the "NEWSLETTER" tab. The mailed out newsletter is coming to you now.
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Colorado Test update Motels - Friday, August 08, 2008
Do to the Democratic National Convention is in Denver that week.
The Hotel and Motel are our full or very high priced.
Here are some other options
Castle Pines Motel - 125 S. Wilcox St, Castle Rock, Colorado 303-688-9728
Castle Pines Motel - 807 Wilcox St, Castle Rock, Colorado 303-688-1207
Falcon Inn - Monument, Colorado 719-623-2863
Dale Merritt
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Online Hunt Test Registration System - Friday, August 8, 2008
MEMBERS STILL NEED TO MAIL YOUR ENTRIES TO THE HUNT TEST SECRETARIES!
On line entry of dogs by members is not yet available. This phase is for the hunt test record keeping only. This past Spring season, APLA successfully rolled out version 1.2 of our custom built Hunt Test Registration System (HTRS)! All Spring HT results are available on http://www.americanpointinglab.com/site/Dogs/tabid/108/Default.aspx.
In case you have not heard about our new system, HTRS is an online, password protected, application which will allow real time access to membership data as well as certification data. The following features and benefits were included in this release of the software.
* Membership information as well as certification information can be cross checked and updated in a prompt manner.
* Hunt Test Secretaries can easily enter test scores which will lead to quicker certificate generation.
* Improve the turn around time from Hunt Test Events to the results being posted online.
* New accounting reporting features:
> Ability to enter one payment to cover multiple entries.
> Refunds for scratch entries (if applicable).
> Create income summary report.
* Allow BOD Secretary to add/update memberships on line (mail-in only).
* Add bird count report enabling HT secretaries to keep track of birds.
* Enhanced Reports
> Alternate row shading for easier viewing.
> Input translation to ALL CAPs when HTS enters data all lower case or proper case so reports and HT Booklet looks uniform.
* Enhanced scoring for quicker certificate generation.
> Add owner name and address to score report.
* Enhanced judge's sheets program allows HT secretaries to print judge's sheets at once.
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Fall hunt test information updates
Check the website hunt test premiums for updates; like judges, times, etc.
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Fall 2008 Larkspur, Colorado hunt test information
Premium and Entry Form Now Available
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Fall 2008 Decorah, Iowa hunt test information
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Fall 2008 Williamston, Michigan hunt test information
Premium and Entry Form available now!
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Fall 2008 Rileyville, Pennsylvania hunt test info
Premium and Entry Form available now!
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Fall 2008 Monroe, Washington hunt test information
Premium and Entry Form available now!
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Fall 2008 Girard, Kansas hunt test information
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Fall 2008 Afton, Iowa hunt test infromation
Premium and Entry Form Now Available
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Rob G
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| 07/01/2008 11:39 AM |
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It never even occured to me that one of the dog's I took in had a name that could be in conflict with a command until I started some advanced training this morning and there it was..."Jack" and "back".
Considering one is used as a release on marks and the other to send on a blind, I'm concerned with confusion.
The dog came to me with the name already attached and he is about 1 year old right now. I've been using "Jack" for months now on all of his marks.
How difficult do you think it would be to change his call name at this point? I know dogs don't "know" their names, but he responds to "Jack" whenever I say his name. If I have all six dogs running around and I say "Jack, here", he comes to me.
What can I do to break him into a new name?
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CPR Bearpoint's Top Gun "Maverick"
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Tug&Goose
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| 07/01/2008 11:59 AM |
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| I would maybe consider using a different word for the command instead of changing his name...Just a thought I have never dealt with anything like that personally. |
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| 07/01/2008 2:43 PM |
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I wouldnt try to change his name at this point, especially since you have conditioned him for his marks with his name. The dog doesnt know the words, they are merely conditioned to a certain response to a certain cue. I actually cue my dogs with a cue to the activity and a release command. On marks I use watch and his call name and on blinds I use "dead bird" and back. Since Im assuming you have worked on steadiness with his name as the release cue, I really wouldnt mess with that. You can use any command for the blinds "line" "bird" "beer" You might get some looks at HTs and youll have to explain why you did if your dog spends some time with a pro so they can maintain consistency, but I wouldnt worry too much about using another command. I work my dog on steadiness calling other names, especially ones that sound like his to hammer in that he doesnt go until he hears his name. My four year old daughter thinks this is a great game.
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Rob G
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| 07/01/2008 2:51 PM |
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| Your right...I try to trick Maverick all of the time. I say "Marbles", "Maggy", "Moose", etc. and he never goes until he hears "Maverick". I guess I need to just make sure I annunciate the "J" and the "B" sound and there probably won't be any problem... |
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CPR Bearpoint's Top Gun "Maverick"
PRG's Hunter's Lullaby "Cricket"
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| 07/01/2008 7:39 PM |
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Posted By Rob G on 07/01/2008 2:51 PM
I guess I need to just make sure I annunciate the "J" and the "B" sound and there probably won't be any problem...
Rob,
For what it's worth I believe you missed the point of the two previous posts. By all means there is no need to change the dogs name from Jack!
However, there is a need to change the "back" command to something else in order to be fair to the dog. "Jack" and "back" are waaaaaayyyyy to similar to expect the dog to always differentiate one from the other especially when shots are going off and birds are falling.
I think both Tug & Liv2 were suggesting that in order to be fair to the dog you come up with your own command that means the same thing as "back" but sounds totally disimilar. Just because "back" is the standard command that everyone uses does not mean that you must use it as well in order to set up your blinds. Be fair to your dog, make up a name completely unlike "Jack". Use anything you like but use it consistently and he wll pick up that that means "back".
Be fair to the dog and find another command to use!
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Rob G
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| 07/01/2008 8:54 PM |
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Brett,
I didn't miss the point, Tug's post was pretty clear, but I did get a different message from Liv2's post...
Regardless, your post is pretty clear and I get your message. Thanks for the input everyone. |
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| 07/01/2008 9:33 PM |
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Rob
Everyone at Valhalla says hello..
I would not worry about the name change... as you recall I have a Jack... when releasing on a blind.. you usually give the "dead bird" command first then pronounce the word like the composer bach. My Jack does't seem to have any problems w/ the command...his problem is me and thinking he knows more about where the bumper is than me LOL
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Rob G
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| 07/02/2008 4:39 AM |
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Thanks for your input Jim. I agree that the cues given prior to the command help the dog differentiate between marks and blinds. Plus the fact that the dog actually sees the marks fall. I'm glad to hear your Jack is doing so well. Will you be out in Larkspur this fall? If so, I'll see you there!
Tell Russell, Jeff and Stephanie I said hello!
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| 07/06/2008 3:32 PM |
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| I once changes a 1yr olds name from "NOva" to Sheela and she took to it immediately and very quickly the confusion was eliminated with the word NO. That confusion with a rather loud original owner created a dog that was outwardly timid of people. With in a few months she was completely different and totally confident around anyone. You never want a name that sounds like NO- I still think that WHO is the wrong word to use and causes confusion in at least some dogs. |
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| 07/07/2008 7:27 AM |
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| Rob,
Go ahead and change the dogs name. It wont take long for him to get. If he went to another home , especially with kids, he would get several new names. Just use his name a bunch when you spend time with him. When he consistently will come to you when called start sending him on his new name.
If it was me I would keep the training terms consistent. I would always cue your dog, in the teaching process, that your sending him on a blind. Pile work, pattern blinds or cold blinds. Dead bird, Back.
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| 07/07/2008 9:16 AM |
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Larry Kimble has a dog named Jack that was not confused by the command "back". I think that Jack's official name is:
"GMPR HRCH Raider's Jumpin Jack Flash MH MNH"
GMPR, HRCH, MH, and MNH (Master National Hunter), not too bad for a dog that is confused.
I also have a dog named Sixx that is a GMPR and SH.
I would not worry about his name. |
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| 07/07/2008 10:10 AM |
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| I agree with Ports (It can happen.) Rob, I have 2 Jack's here, and if I had a brown one I'd have all 3 colors. All go on marks on Jack and blinds on Back and none seem to have any confusion. Jim described it perfectly. Quit thinking so much my friend, go train your dog! Hope to see you at Larkspur! |
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Rob G
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| 07/07/2008 11:02 AM |
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Thanks for all of the advice...
I forgot to mention that he is 'black' so he's probably a bit smarter than the 'average' dog!  |
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